Credo in Unum Deum

I Believe in One God

How do we come to assent to “mere Christianity?”

Sorry this is so long.;

The Church against No-Church
Part I of II
Brownson’s Quarterly Review, April, 1845
Art. 1. The Christian Examiner and Religious Miscellany, January, 1845. Art. VI. The Church.
The Journal, the title of which we have here quoted, is the ably conducted organ of the American Unitarians. As a periodical, it is one in which we take no slight interest; for it is conducted by our personal friends, and through its pages, which were liberally opened to us, we were at one time accustomed to give circulation to our own crude speculations and pestilential heresies. We introduce it to our readers, however, not for the purpose of expressing any general opinion of its character, or the peculiar tenets of the denomination of which it is the organ ; but solely for the purpose of using the article which appeared in the January number, headed The Church, as a text for some remarks in defence of the Church against the prevalent No-Churchism of our age and community.
In our Review for October last, we refuted the pretensions of the High-Church Episcopalians ; in the last number, in the article on The British Reformers, we refuted Low-Churchism : we attempt now a refutation of No-Churchism, or the doctrine which admits the Church in name, but denies it in fact. All Protestant sects, just in proportion as they depart from Catholic unity, tend to No-Churchism ; and our Unitarians, who are the Protestants of Protestants, and who afford us a practical exemplification of what Protestantism is and must be, when and where it has the sense, the honesty, or the courage to be consequent, have already reached this important point. They cannot be said, in the legitimate sense of the word, to believe in any Church at all. They see clearly enough, that, if they once admit a Church at all, in any sense in which it is distinguishable from No-Church, they can neither justify the Reformers in seceding from the Catholic Church, nor themselves in remaining aliens from its communion. They have, therefore, the honesty and boldness to deny the Church altogether, and to admit in its place only a voluntary association of individuals for pious and religious purposes ; in which sense it is on a par with a Bible, Missionary, Temperance, or Abolition society, with scarcely any thing more holy in its objects, or more binding on its members.
The Examiner, in the article we have referred to, fully authorizes this statement; and though it by no means discards the sacred name of Church, it leaves us nothing venerable or worth contending for to be signified by it. The controversies, for the next few years, it thinks, will, not improbably, revolve around the question of the Church. ” What, then,” it asks, ” is the Church ? what is its authority ? what its importance ? what its true place among Christian ideas or influences ?” These are the questions ; and its purpose in the article under consideration is to offer a few remarks which may indicate a true answer to them, especially the last.
In answer to the question, What is the Church ? the writer replies, ” It is the whole company of believers, the uncounted and wide-spread congregation of all those who receive the Gospel as the law of life. It is coextensive with Christianity ; it is the living Christianity of the time, be that more or less, be it expressed in one mode of worship or another, in one or another variety of internal discipline. The Church of Christ comprehends and is composed of all his followers.” pp. 78, 79.
The answer to the question, What is the importance of the Church ? is not very clearly set forth. Perhaps this is a point on which the writer has not yet attained to clear and distinct views. It is, probably, one of those points on which “more light is to break forth.” The place of the Church among Christian ideas and influences is also not very definitely determined ; but it would appear, according to the Examiner, that the sacred writers had two ideas,for they were not, like our modern reformers, men of only one idea, and these two ideas were, one the Church, the other the individual soul. We do not mean to say that the writer really intends to teach that the Church is an idea, for a ” company of believers” can hardly be called an idea, nor can the individual soul; but he probably means to teach that the sacred writers had two ideas, or rather two points of view, from which they contemplated this company of believers,-the one collective, the other individual. “They loved to collect in ideathe members of Christ, as they styled them, under one idea, and present them in this relation of unity to their readers. Thus viewed, the Church became the emblem of Christian influences and Christian benefits. It expressed all Christ had lived for, or died for. He had loved it, and given himself for it. It was ‘the pillar and ground of the truth.’ It was «the body’ of which he was the head.”p. 79.This unity, however, is purely ideal. The only unity really existing consists merely in the similar sentiments, hopes, and aims of the individual members. But
” There was another idea on which the Apostles insisted still more strenously, that of the individual soul. They taught the importance of the individual soul. Around this, as the one object of interest, were gathered the revelations and commandments of the Gospel. Personal responsibleness in view of privileges, duties, sins, temptations was their great theme. They preached the Gospel to the soul in its individual exposure and want. It is the peculiarity of our religion, its vital peculiarity, that it makes the individual the object of its address, its immediate and its final action. Christianity divested of this distinction becomes powerless, and void of meaning. It contradicts and subverts itself.” Ib.

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June 10, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

A Prayer for Protestants

I got this from my good friend Duns over at Inconvenience Rightly Considered.  Very cute.


May God be kind to captive fish
Who dwell in little bowls and wish
To swim, and can’t, and have no notion
Of what has happened to the ocean.

And may He Bless in aviaries
Continually caged canaries,
Who wonder, when they try to fly,
What can have happened to the sky.

(From the pen of the never to be sufficiently maligned)

Fr. Leonard Feeney S.J.


June 5, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

Jesus, the New Covenant Priesthood, and the Most Holy Eucharist-UPDATED Link Fixed!

[Originally posted May of 08]

Over the weekend I listened to Dr. Brant Pitre (a Catholic version of N. T. Wright) discussing the above topic. I think it is very powerful and contains some arguments that any self-respecting Protester needs to answer. And if no answer is forthcoming, then, said self-respecting Protester ought to either quit the protesting, or quit the self-respecting! 😉

Part 1.

Part 2

May 27, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Historical, Liturgy, Religion, Theology | Leave a comment

Our faith rests on Divine Authority

I suggest that you first (re)acquaint yourself with my initial post on faith–

–before reading this. This is sort of a further explanation of that post.

Since without faith we cannot be saved, and faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God, it seems to be that our faith must be in the Word of God. Now of course, the Word of God is so much more vast than the Bible and is not even primarily the Bible, but Jesus, the eternal Logos. But there are certain propositions that proceed from the mouth of God that are to be believed. These include items like the Messiahship of Jesus, the Death and Resurrection, the Atonement, that one must repent and renounce the devil and the world– basically the gospel here.

Faith then must rest on the Divine Word spoken to us. This Divine Word is given by Divine Authority, since it is given by the Blessed Trinity. This Divine Authority must speak either directly or immediately to us, or mediately via some creature. The medium hypothetically posited has no inherent Divine Authority. If I am spoken to immediately then my faith in the Word will be based on the immediate experience with the Divine Authority. If I am spoken to mediately, then my faith will be based not on Divine Authority, but whatever authority the medium has. Therefore, unless God speaks to me immediately, I cannot exercise Faith because I am not believing the Word of God based on God’s Divine Authority, but of the medium’s authority.

But this is repugnant. But if I insert that in addition to the fact that the medium possesses no inherent authority, that God bestows upon the medium His own Authority in certain matters, then I can exercise Faith since the act of Faith rests on the Authority of God delegated to the medium which I directly experience.

Since the only Church that claims to possess this kind of Authority and has so from the beginning (if you dispute this, please keep quiet until you read the early Fathers) is the Catholic Church, it follows that the only way we can exercise Faith is if we believe what the Church teaches, or if God comes to us immediately and reveals to us the Truth.

The public nature of revelation (truth) should be discussed. But not now… I am tired.

May 26, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

Archbishop Ranjith says it like it is.

What a priest.

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May 26, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | Leave a comment

Hey, the Old Mass is only to get SSPXers back, right?

Enter the President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei.  What does he say?

This video is from in introduction to an FSSP training video… is the Extraordinary Form only for the schismatics and the old fogies that are pining for when the priest only showed his back side?  Well…

Think again!

Deo gratias!

May 24, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | Leave a comment

Only on the tongue…

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May 22, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | Leave a comment

Faith impossible without the Catholic Church?

Some folks argue that “saving”* faith is impossible if the Catholic Church is not true. Is that the case? Here seems to be the line of reasoning.
The object of faith is God. That is not a disputed proposition among those claiming to be Christian in any supposed orthodox sense (i.e. not liberals who deny revelation or inspiration yet still call themselves Christian). Yet to have faith in God, we need to believe what He teaches us about Himself, ourselves, etc. All He has revealed to us is to be believed. Our knowledge of God, and thus our relationship with God, is dependent to a great extent on the Special Revelation He has given us. I think it will be conceded that our relationship with God determines whether we are saved or damned.

There are a couple things to say now about this. I think that all of the above is pretty evident. But in case there is anybody who doubts the above, let us repsond as follows. Any of the people addressed in this article (that is the general Christian in any supposed orthodox sense), will believe that God has revealed Himself to us both naturally and specially. Natural Revelation is of course what we can derive from Reason alone, which is quite a bit, but not really enough to have a self-conscious, personal, one-on-one relationship because we would lack certain essential bits of knowledge about the character of God in Christ. Special Revelation is defined minimally as what was delivered once for all to the saints as contained in the Bible (at least 66 Books, and more truly in all 73 inspired Books of Holy Scripture). Now unless we our going to place ourselves in the category with the heathens who have never heard the revelation from God through Christ and therefore must rely on Natural Revelation alone, the above assertions do not seem to be controversial. Therefore, we must admit that those of us who are aware of, or should be aware of (that is, ought to be aware of, but are willfully ignorant) Special Revelation then fall under the rubric above—our relationship with God is dependent on our knowledge of God. Therefore, let us concede all that has been said and move forward.

Thus far we have stated that our knowledge of God is determinative of our relationship with God, and thus determinative of our salvation or damnation.† Now in order to perform an act of Faith, there must be something that we are believing. It may be said again that we are believing a person, Jesus the Christ. I again repsond as above that we cannot have faith in something that we have no knowledge of. Our believing requires that we are believing something about that Person which is the object of our act of Faith.

Here seems to be the heart of the assertion that faith is impossible without the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church proports to be Divinely protected. She claims to have delivered to us infallibly the canon of Scripture and certain other dogmas of the Faith, including the Trinity and Hypostatic Union, to name just two. But let us just assert the necessity of what Scripture tells us about this Jesus who we believe in. It would be impious at best to base ones faith on what is not Divinely given. In fact, such faith is not faith at all, in the sense of “saving” faith.* I think that is not disputed here among us. Now if our faith is to be based on what is Divinely given, we must have certainty‡ that it is Divinely given. But that certainty is impossible without an infallible and indeed indefectible Church. Since no Church claims this at all, save the Catholic Church, it follows that Faith is impossible if the Catholic Church is not the One, True Church. But if the Catholic Church is the One, True Church, then Faith is possible.

This is also important for the concept of covenant children, implicit faith and many other interesting issues, like EENS… but that is all for another post!!

*Of course, there is no such thing as saving faith as opposed to other kinds of faith in God. But, I make the distinction in order to avoid confusion, in addition to the fact that many Protestants have invented the term to delineate between those who appear to have faith but don’t “for real”— therefore they should know what I mean.

†Just to clarify some more… Since God saves or condemns on the basis of what we do with what we know, this should not be difficult to assent to. Our knowledge of God is determinative of our relationship. This means that we can accept or reject what we know about the Truth of God. Rejection means damnation, acceptance salvation (at least initially— we are not dealing with the problem of persevering in the Faith, only getting in!).

‡I refuse to go deep into the “What kind of certainty do you mean?” question. Let the reader be thoughtful enough to know that I don’t mean mathematical certainty or any other certainty restricted to what is known by reason alone. This is to me one of the most irritating questions. Having argued this question many times I have decided that it is more of a skeptical red-herring than a real concern over super-subtle definitions. It seems that the Holy Apostles did not worry about defining-to-exclude when they spoke about having certainty about the things they preached which was revealed to them by God. When the reader reads this term in the Bible, let him apply it to my usage in this article.

May 20, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

Why is there something rather than nothing?

Yeah, that’s the old question.  The erudite snicker, and hand wave.  But that just tells me they don’t want to answer it.  And how is it that the only possible answer to that question is non-existent?  Is that even possible?

May 19, 2008 Posted by | Philosophy | Leave a comment

Kissin’s getting old…

Not the baby face any more!  But he is still pretty good, although there are some silly mistakes here.  I heard a rumor that his technique rivals Horowitz… It is just hard for me to conceive of that.  Horowitz is just so fascinating.  Anyway, for your enjoyment, the aging (aging…what is he, 37 years old?) Kissin performing Beethoven’s Rage over a Lost Penny.

May 19, 2008 Posted by | Music | 2 Comments

Real men go potty while standing…

At least that is what Pastor Steven L. Anderson, of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona says.  Check it out, folks… stuff like this can’t be made up.

April 29, 2008 Posted by | Religion | Leave a comment

Summorum Pontificum finally translated from the Latin on the Vatican Website!!

Good thing I read Hungarian perfectly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh well…. it’s a start.

April 11, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | Leave a comment

The Beauty of Goodness and the Goodness of Beauty

Now I am sure that I have heard that before, but I can’t quite remember where… maybe in Adler’s “The Six Great Ideas”.  But I got to thinking about that as I listened to “The Wisdom of Father Brown” this morning during my commute.  I had a startling rediscovery— that is, I have realized this before, but for whatever reason, it had a special kick this time.  I don’t know what either of those things are, and that is troubling.  Sure, it may be like unto the High Court’s definition of pornography: “It’s hard to define it, but you know it when you see it”.  Now it may seem rather to display my utter un-knowledge by using the definition of porn to describe my understanding of Beauty and Goodness, and if you think so I must concur.  But it is nevertheless the most accurate way I can describe my knowledge of Goodness and Beauty.  I know that the one is something that is Good, and I know that the other is quite Beautiful.

How is it that we have gotten to the point in history where only the learned know what they mean by Good and Beautiful and even they don’t have the slightest clue?  For they call the Cathedral bad and ugly, and the woman’s choice for unlife good and beautiful.  The ugly and mean are praised for being daring, and the daring Dogmatist is ugly and mean.  The liberation of women and minorities is good and just, but the Liberation of the same from the oppressive liberators is evil and unjust.

What can be done?  I think bad, old Catholic Theology has something to offer.  Go to Mass, pray your Rosary, and venerate some Sacred Images.  In the Mass, you see and taste the slain and risen Lord, yet only dimly as through an accidental veil.  In the Rosary, you witness the Goodness and Justice of our Lord.  In Sacred Images, you see the Beauty of the Faith in the lives of the Saints.  In the Mass, we experience the Goodness of God in our right and just worship of Him as we lift up our hearts above to be filled with His Goodness and Beauty so that we may then have our hearts poured out with the Goodness and Beauty of Christ to a world that does not know it.

Now, have I been using Goodness and Beauty with absolute univocity?  No.  I have been analogical in my usage and the blending of the two uses can be confusing.  However, since I do not know what really Beauty and Goodness are, and since I imagine that most anyone who is reading this does not really know either, I am offering what I think is the best way to actually begin to glimpse what these two “great ideas” are.  I don’t know how we are to know what they are without a firm dedication to our Lord.

April 3, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Philosophy | Leave a comment

So, will that PCED clarification ever come?

Just wonderin’.  I mean, it seems that we have been waiting for about 40 years and it just ain’t here yet.  But, peace, be still, my soul.  It shall come…

But I do have these nagging fears that our current Pope will not wake up one morning (perish the thought) and his enemies will go into overdrive to turn back the clock on liturgical develpoment… hmmm.  That’s weird.  Who are the sentimentalists pining for the past now?

I urge prayers for our Pope.

April 3, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | Leave a comment

Evolution, Science and Philosophy

I am currently in a discussion about evolution with a self-proclaimed atheist.  There are a number of things that this little dialog has taught me or confirmed to me, but I’ll try to stick to just a few.

First, I am constantly awed by the fact the atheist-evolutionist is completely unaware of the fact that he has philosophical presuppositions that can be challenged and which have a essential bearing on his belief in atheistic evolution.

Second, I am just not trained to argue these facts.  It is really almost as bad as two self-proclaimed Bible experts (that is, they read it prayerfully) at the local community Bible church slinging the greek around with authority when neither of them have had a day a greek in their life (oh they have a concordance and interlinear text) and the authorities they rely on have barely a better education themselves.  Frankly, I grow weary of the fact bomb tossing which then each side has to defuse and then lob another bomb back or just run away and let it explode with no harm done (that means just pretend it was never thrown in terms of response).  I just don’t know enough about science to tell this guy that his radio-metrical-cyber-pulsar dating method is crap.  I just don’t know.  I say that scientist X says it is faulty and the radio-metrical-cyber-pulsar daters cheat on the numbers, and he’ll say the Dr. X was fulla crap and didn’t do his research because facts a, b, c.  Yeah, and I am gonna say what?  “Everybody knows pulsars don’t date ugly dudes like you”?  What?

Third, a lot of these guys haven’t heard the news that Logical Positivism was annihilated 50 years ago.  But they have combined it with a fierce anti-realism.  My new friend told me that science is about predicting what will happen in nature.  It is not supposed to tell us anything with certainty.  What!?!

Fourth, I am offended for Science by these guys.   What happened to the bad old days when religion and science worked together and when we believed that Science could give us positive knowledge of the nature of things?  Don’t it make you pine for the past?  But you probably want an Old Latin Mass too, you filthy dark-aged ogre.

Fifth, and finally for now, I think that, for me anyway, philosophy is the only way to converse with these guys.  Logic governs the reasoning of all the disciplines.  Philosophy can assess the unspoken and un-understood assumptions that our atheist-evolutionist holds to.  So that is the route I have taken.  Fine if there ain’t no God out there, that means this universe is eternal.  Go Kalam and the smack is laid down… gently of course. 

March 26, 2008 Posted by | Philosophy, Religion, Science | 2 Comments

The Papacy as seen from the Bible- briefly. Pt. 2

In Part 1, I argued briefly that in Matthew 16, Jesus changes Simon’s name to Peter, Rock, and then proclaims that He will build His Church on that very rock, Peter.  I pointed out that when petra is used to mean something other than a literal rock, it is always a concrete personal thing, not an abstract idea (like faith).  God is the Rock and Jesus is the Rock.  I should further note that Christ giving this name to Simon specifically as a name change is significant.  This title, Rock, has somewhat divine overtones since it is applied mainly (maybe exclusively, but I am not certain about that) to God the Father and God the Son.  More should be said about this, but this is a “brief” overview.  Is. 22 contains the second classical text which is quoted and alluded to in the Matthew passage discussed last time.   Here is what it says, NIV again:

15. This is what the Lord, the LORD Almighty, says: “Go, say to this steward, to Shebna, who is in charge of the palace:16.What are you doing here and who gave you permission to cut out a grave for yourself here, hewing your grave on the height and chiseling your resting place in the rock?17. “Beware, the LORD is about to take firm hold of you and hurl you away, O you mighty man.18. He will roll you up tightly like a ball and throw you into a large country. There you will die and there your splendid chariots will remain– you disgrace to your master’s house!19. I will depose you from your office, and you will be ousted from your position.20. “In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah.21. I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.22. I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.23. I will drive him like a peg into a firm place; he will be a seat of honor for the house of his father.24. All the glory of his family will hang on him: its offspring and offshoots–all its lesser vessels, from the bowls to all the jars.25.”In that day,” declares the LORD Almighty, “the peg driven into the firm place will give way; it will be sheared off and will fall, and the load hanging on it will be cut down.” The LORD has spoken.

(I suppose I have to pay some sort of royalty for quoting that much Scripture…BTW, emphasis mine.) Without going into all the political stuff involved in what a steward is, suffice it to say that the steward was a prime minister-like position in which the person who was steward possessed the power to make decisions for the king in his (the king’s) name when necessary.  It was a position that was successive; that is, when one steward died, another succeeded him.  This isn’t bio-chemical engineering of spaceship flagella, or whatever the ID physicists do.  This is simple enough stuff.  But this is already too long…

Jesus evokes this image of steward in Matthew 16; that is obvious.  Now what needs to be driven home is this:  Since the steward position was a position that had as part of its working a succession of stewards, it is utterly ridiculous to think that Peter and the rest of the disciples would’ve, without a word from our Lord, thought, “I guess he’ll be the last steward and there will no longer be anymore succession of stewards in the new Kingdom”.  That doesn’t make sense.  (I think the last steward will reign until The Return of the King, and may it please God that our last steward is not like Gondor’s last steward!) So there is built in the idea of succession. Finally, it is interesting to note that the steward specifically referred to in the Isaiah passage is also prophesied to fail just like the steward he (Eliakim) is replacing.  How fitting, then, for Christ to say to Peter, “You are to be the Steward of the Renewed People of God; you are the Rock upon which I will build this people; this load; this Holy House.  And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!”  This Steward will not fail.  This House cannot fail.  Christ Himself guarantees that Peter and his successors will not fail in holding up the Church that is built on them.

Of course, the true scholars out there have expanded on all this to a truly great degree and filled in all the holes.  This is brief after all. The next question in this brief overview is whether the rest of the Gospels contain any information that would lend support to what seems to me to be overwhelming evidence for the papacy already.  Of course, these texts do not serve to add strength to the argument per se.  What they will serve to do is substantiate the claim.  That is, if there is never any outworking of the Matthew 16 passage as it seemingly must be interpreted, that should make us pause for a moment and really look hard to see whether our reading is in fact the obvious reading we think it is.  If any passages do exist that show Jesus treating Peter as if he will be the Pope some time after His Death and Resurrection, then we can know that we have indeed interpreted the obvious correctly.  I guess that will be part 3.(I think even without any other evidence in the Gospels or Acts that it would be exegetical suicide to come to any other conclusion.  Also, I do like the ID folks.)

March 17, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

The Papacy as seen from the Bible- briefly. Pt. 1

This is merely a quick rundown of some of the Biblical evidence for the papacy, bolstered by some pertinent historical data. Matt. 16:16-19 is the classical text.  What does it say? NIV:

16. Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17. Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

I don’t like the NIV, but I guess most folks use it and the translation isn’t bad here so… a.) Simon singularly receives a revelation.  b.) Simon’s name is changed to Peter, which means “rock”.  c.) Jesus says that upon this rock He will build His Church and promises it indefectibility, that it will not fail, Satan cannot overcome it.  d.) Jesus promises to give Peter the keys to the Kingdom; his bindings and loosings shall have been bound and loosed in Heaven.Jesus says that he will build His Church upon this rock.

I hate it when some guy who doesn’t know Greek starts busting out what the Greek says in the 38th declension coupled with the 4th conjugation of the active-passive participle of the future past verb, but that being said, the Greek word for “this” can be translated, and often is because, according to the real Greek Geeks, tautee is a demonstrative adjective, as even this or this very.  (See  KJV of Acts 13:33; I Cor. 7:20; II Cor. 8:6; 9:4-5.)  This would seem to require that the petra of verse 18 is the same as the Petros of verse 18.  That is, they are identifiable.  It is out of the question that the petra is the confession or Christ Himself.  Further John 2:42 makes it clear that the changing of Peter’s name was not linked to his confession per se, since when Jesus first meets Peter in this account He just says “you’ll be called Peter”.

So with this understanding, it is more than proper to read v. 18, “You are Rock, and upon this same (or this very) rock I will build my Church.  Finally, my study in this area has pointed out that when petra is used symbolically, it is always used of something concrete.  Thus, Christ is my rock, God is my rock.  It is not used of an abstract thing, like faith or propositions.  Likewise, the symbolism or analogy of foundation is always used in terms of a really existing concrete thing.  Our foundation is Christ, the prophets and apostles are our foundation, the Church is the foundation of the truth.

I suppose all I am doing here is agreeing with most Protestant scholars and (I hope) all Catholic scholars.  The big next step is to show that after Peter died that there was a continued primacy of his successor.  I guess that is for part 2.

March 10, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

Faith Alone – feeling alone

Of course, no where does St. Paul state that we are justified by faith alone. Now, some might say that it can be inferred from many passages, just like we infer from many passages and the covenantal and cultural context that we ought to baptize our babies because they born into a believing, covenant family. The problem with that argument is that when we argue for paedo-baptism, we argue from the fact that children of covenant households were always considered as belonging to God. We argue from the fact that at the time the Bible was written, that was still the understanding. When households were baptized, it is inconceivable that the babies (if there were any there) were also baptized.
But the problem with sola fide pushers is this: they contend that Paul was castigating folks because they thought that works was needed without faith, or maybe with faith, and he was setting them straight and saying that faith alone justifies. The disconnect is in the fact that in the baptism argument, we appeal to the fact that the text doesn’t need to be clear about infants, because it would be assumed, being a part of the covenant consciousness of the people. Apparently, works righteousness was the main category in the consciousness of the people, according to the Lutheran/Reformed folks. This would call for an explicit rebuttal of works righteousness and an even clearer proclamation of sola fide. This also renders James statement, “not by faith alone”(delivered to a Jewish audience I believe) utterly ridiculous. Since the Jews had a problem with works righteousness, why is he telling them you are justified not by faith alone, but by works?

Maybe the Jews weren’t works righteousness freaks after all? Maybe they knew they were part of the covenant and were Gods people. Maybe the fact that they weren’t being faithful is what Paul was attacking… which makes sense of his Hab. 3 quote that “the just man shall live by his faithfulness…” — activity I think… Maybe the Jews were so utterly proud of their covenant identity in the fleshly marks (circumcision- another point of attack for Paul) that they had begun to trust in these works of the Law (circumcision being commanded by the Law) that they had ceased to be faithful to the covenant (work in faith, not works alone, not faith alone).


February 15, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | 10 Comments

Abraham the Multi-Justified

Man that’s catchy!

So there seems to be a problem with the view that Justification is a once-for-all, one time, never to be repeated event.

You see, Abraham was justified about three times, according to Sacred Scriptures. Genesis 12, 15 and 22. I am not saying what that means right now, I am only pointing out that the view of Justification the Reformers innovated seems to be in trouble.

February 14, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Controversial, Protestantism, Religion | Leave a comment

So the Pope did change the prayer…

But I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt after going nuts with despair when I first heard about it.  “All he is going to do,” said I, “is make the Jews mad, make the Traditionalists mad, make the liberal/progressives mad, make the conservatives mad, and give the Evangelical Protestants more ammo to accuse the Pope of being a Ecumaniac!”  Well, come to think of it, I think my feelings were right, and Mr. Foxman (the epitome of reasoned, thoughtful commentary) with his “Christian” friends decried the Popes decision, many Catholics are all bent out of shape about this.

But let’s look at it a moment.  He changed the wording, but, logically, it still says the same thing.  The Jews need illumination… because they are already illumined??  No, because they are in… what… darkness.  In the first major liturgical act since the ridiculous prayers of the Novus Ordo Good Friday Prayers (Happy Friday I should say… I’m good, you’re good, hell, even the Jews are good!), the Pope has reiterated that the Jews are still in need of the Savior of all men, and someday, all Israel will be saved by the fullness of the Gentiles coming in.  I think this will bring a debate that has gone on in the clouds too long down to earth.  Is the Catholic Church the New Israel?  What does this mean?  This may precipitate a changing of the current NO Good Friday prayers.  But now I am dreaming…

February 6, 2008 Posted by | Catholicism, Liturgy, Religion | 1 Comment